This totally invalidates their argument “Linux isn’t big enough to care about”. I highly doubt there are more Windows Arm gamers than Linux gamers.
They won’t or can’t get their anti-cheat/DRM in as a kernel module. Would you trust that bunch of fucks to not screw something up terribly by trying to pop in something like that?
So what’s so bad if it’s kernel level?
It is a potential security risk to the system and enables extremely intrusive control and surveillance.
It’s basically a rootkit.
They can’t even effectively prevent cheaters so I’m always suspicious what the real intent of these rootkits.
Yikes. I did not know that. I’m a Linux user but when it comes to talking about kernel stuff I’m like “what?”
Tldr kernel access is bad.
You have a great personal reference point for this; you use Linux, and when have you ever needed kernel access regularly?
What conceivable reason could a game dev have for wanting access to that?
How could having that access be detrimental to your machines security?
It means they expect Windows on ARM to get bigger.
If that’s the case they should not say stuff like “oh we would totally support Linux if the Steam Deck would have sold 10 million copies, the userbase is just too small now” but then proceed to support ARM which has a much smaller userbase still while there’s not even a guarantee it will outgrow Linux in the near future. Just quit the BS and say you’ll never want to support Linux.
I really haven’t been paying attention on the consumer side, are there a ton of systems in the works or out for ARM on windows? Everything I see due to my line of work is business class SKU’s they are not cheap and not game friendly. 😬
There are plenty of Windows on ARM laptiops available from major manufacturers, including Microsoft, Samsung, Acer, Asus, Dell, etc. Microsoft notably sells their ARM laptops for less than the Intel version; not sure about the other brands.
The iGPUs obviously don’t compare to dedicated GPUs, even those that are a few generations old, but it has enough power for gaming in lighter games and even heavier games if you’re willing to turn the graphics to low and lower the resolution.
Last I saw, there were a lot of game incompatibility issues, but I haven’t been paying attention since launch. But this thread is literally about Epic improving their support on ARM, albeit with a “they hate Linux!” spin on it.
Are we even able to successfully add an eGPU on those ARM laptops using a Linux distro?
I know you can with Raspberry Pi’s and Ampere CPUs.
Not sure about X Elite, that hardware still isn’t fully upstreamed. Ubuntu has decent support for them though.
Functionally, it works great and sluses less power. Issue is it can’t be backwards compatible with any software from a traditional processor. So the last 3 decades worth of programs you may have won’t run on an arm chip.
Sorry, I just meant on the home/consumer market instead of business. I’ve been rocking a Lenovo T14s Gen 6 ARM since it debuted. 😄
That sounds significantly harder than supporting Steam Deck users but OK Epic
Well, I’m not 7 anymore, so I won’t miss Fortnite at all.
So the upcoming Xbox console is Windows on Arm.
I kinda get the argument about it, but the game is so bad I can’t be bothered to even be upset, even on their behalf.
I legit feel like Linux is better for not having it.
I wonder how much $$$ Microsoft is paying them for this?
Good, it will continue to not be played at my house.
Looks up from single player game, goes back to playing
Too bad that they’re missing profits by not enabling EAC support for linux.
EAC does support Linux and there’s games out there using it. It’s the kernel level stuff that won’t work because Linux refuses to support it, a decision I completely agree with. I don’t want arshole game developers fucking around in my kernel.
Fortnite is unironically a really good game, its the only game i’ve spent money on microtransactions (10 bucks) in and I would literally spend more if I could actually play it on linux.
I agree. It also runs in a lot of low to mid end setups. The only battle royale game that id still enjoyable in my opinion.
It’s too bad, really. I only buy games from there if they’re significantly cheaper. But I do my gaming on Windows atm.
Good thing I don’t care about Fortnite and never ever buy games on Epic!
Same, except for Rocket League but i bought it before Epic aquired it and turned it into a f2p cash grab.
But I’ll happily take all their free stuff, lol.
I’ve not spent over $20 on epic ever, but have hundreds of games.
Same, but I’ve spent exactly $0. Most of their free games work just fine on my Steam Deck through Heroic, so I’m pretty happy.
Steam gets my money, EGS gets my weekly claims.
