The United States has announced the approval of the sale of more than $7.4bn in bombs, missiles and related equipment to Israel, which has used American-made weapons to devastating effect during the war in Gaza.
The state department has signed off on the sale of $6.75bn in bombs, guidance kits and fuses, in addition to $660m in Hellfire missiles, according to the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA).
The proposed sale of the bombs “improves Israel’s capability to meet current and future threats, strengthen its homeland defense, and serves as a deterrent to regional threats”, the DSCA said in a statement.
Imagine paying off student loans with that money.
“But we need indentured servants!” - the rich
Where’s all the idiots who wouldn’t vote “for genocide” at?
How much military aid did we send to Israel under Biden? And Kamala was different from him, how? How many UN motions were vetoed by a Democrat administration to prolong the genocide? I ate shit and voted for Democrats again, but there was never anyone to vote for that wasn’t going to support the genocide of Palestinians.
Way too much
You see it was impossible to take a nuanced position and vote for the lesser of two evils.
Yup
Imagine saying that line unironically. Serious Nazi vibes here at .world.
B…b…but the Democrats are genociders so I didn’t vote or voted 3rd party to help the Palestinians.
Did I help? Did I help them? Does this help them?
None of the votes during this past election would have helped Palestine. That’s the point. You gotta think long term. Dems and Reps suck.
Our two party, single vote system isn’t working for the people and they want you to believe it is. Control your politicians. Don’t let them control you.
For the US, sure.
Letting in the Tangerine Mussolini means there won’t be a Palestine by the end of his term.
With the Democrats under the control of the DNC neither. Remember how the US built an “aid pier” for hundreds of millions that never delivered aid, but instead a beachhead for an Israeli assault disguised as humanitarian aid?
Now with Trump people are forced to confront the empire and maybe resist it from within, which also helps those outside of it. In the same wake other countries like in Europe will have to confront the fact that the US was never their friend, but just gave more considerations to the appearance of mutual respect and sovereignity on the outside.
The US empire has made it clear under Biden already, that there will be no peace in the Middle East, as long as the empire can prevent it. The only route to peace is dismantling the empire and replacing it with a normal country.
Neither of those things will happen, the US will turn into an autocratic state and Palestine will be erased. Then they will expand to Greater Israel with US troops.
the US will turn into an autocratic state and Palestine will be erased.
Ah the iron convictions of those who participate in a democratic society.
June 29, 2024 US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7
Biden only stopped sending them after there was nothing left to destroy in Gaza.
While I don’t disagree, I feel like we need to talk more about how disconnected the Democratic Party is from what their base actually wants. Them being diet republicans ain’t cutting it
Gee, would have been nice to have democracy a few more years to maybe try and fix it.
I feel like we need to talk more about how disconnected the Democratic Party is from what their base actually wants
Did you feel this need before the election too? Because a lot of people did and that is who we’re talking about here.
True. But at the same time you’re not going to get any of that by not voting and letting Republicans get elected. I mean get you butts out there and primary these centrist lead weights.
If the DNC allowed that y’all wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place. I mean hello? 2020 was four years ago.
primary these centrist lead weights.
This. Right. Here.
Doesnt this boil down to the usual “the left falls in love, while the right falls in line”? hard to fall in love with your alliy’s ongoing war crimes and lefties are renowed for not falling in line even against their best interests. Makes it hard to win as an incumbent, though, how did Obama win reelection, he wouldn’t have been mistaken for a saint the second time round.
PS: got it, it’s because Romney still couldn’t make the right fall in line hard enough comparing with the love for Obama.
They couldn’t win an election as diet republicans.
They’re not going to win if they move further left.
Democrats lost because they didn’t embrace populist rhetoric.
If they just ran someone like Bernie they could have won. People are tired of the status quo and they thought Trump would be a way out of it. All democrats run on is “we’ll keep things the same”.
Left populism is popular. Center right positions coming from the Democrats are not.
Would you like fascism or diet fascism? Uhh… Neither. So I guess I will just stay home and not vote
(Actually, I did vote. But I can understand why a lot of people weren’t motivated to).
There was one shot at helping the people of Palestine, that was the Democrats.
They refused to listen to voters and instead took in billions of lobbying from Zionists.
The only blame lies solely on Kamala and her greed. Imagine thinking stopping Trump was less important than making money.
I wonder if you will keep rehashing the election even as people are being loaded into boxcars?
“I told you trans people to vote third party, but you had to vote for Kamala, didn’t you? Bye-bye!”
It certainly seems that way on .world lately.
I knew what the comments were going to be in this thread before I even opened it.
They think there will be another legitimate election and I don’t know why they think that in the face of the mountain of evidence that America is now a fascist one-party state with that party being above the law.
Yeah, you probably saw the article yesterday about the head of the FEC. They tried to fire her and of course Musk is trying to get into all of those systems.
The only way the US is going to ever have fair elections again is after a lot of bloodshed. And possibly restructuring as a new nation.
Federal IT is basically fucked. The whole system would need to be replaced to get rid of all of the back doors Musk is installing.
Elections are over. Gtfo or figure out how to stay safe if you have to (I’m in the later camp, can’t afford to move and hard to get a passport anyway being trans)
I’m so sorry. I was able to get out with my daughter, who is gay, for that reason. I really hope you can be safe. I really worry about you and all of the other queer people in America and I wish I could do something.
The Democrats seemed quite fine with risking Trans people to be loaded into boxcars. Also many people immediately lasged out at ethnic minorities and queer people for not supporting the Democrats as strongly.
For the DNC they only got some considerations, when they were useful for power. Now that they didnt grant it, they got tossed aside.
Case in point all the D-Representatives now helping to vote Trump officials into elected government positions.
I guess the answer is yes, you will keep rehashing the election even as people are being loaded into boxcars.
I mean “what the fuck happened in November 2024” is an important question to answer if you’re ever going to stop people from being loaded into boxcars.
Except people aren’t rehashing it to learn, everyone is just rehashing things to assign blame.
Fuck, Republicans had their whole postmortem and even they managed to learn and now control all three branches of government.
Many people are rehashing it in defense, because these posts always start with assigning blame for not voting in Harris.
It would be great if the Democratic Party started running a more popular platform and won the election by something other than begrudging lesser-of-two-evils votes. Obama’s first term showed how powerful that could be.
Hopefully the Democratic Party has learned that bringing a status-quo to a populist fight isn’t a good idea, but I’m not holding my breath on that anymore.
Except people aren’t rehashing it to learn, everyone is just rehashing things to assign blame.
That’s fair, but I think you can’t have one without the other. I mean assigning blame as an end in and of itself is pretty unproductive, but I still do believe that there’s something to be gained from those conversations as people use them as springboards to figure out the question of what the fuck to do about this. Shutting down conversations about the election is just not the way to go if your goal is to eventually defeat fascism.
Really? How?
Because one thing (holding your nosed and uniting behind the Democrats) was tried, and miserably failed. If you don’t know why it failed you’ll never know how to do better, or even if it is possible to do better. I guess my point is that those who don’t learn from the past are doomed to repeat it, and y’all really can’t afford a repeat of this election.
I think the way forward is to get away from both Republicans and Democrats and bring people into power, who are not part of either. Going back to the Democrats is not going to make things better again. Another example for that is the migration and deportation policies of Biden, which were mostly a continuation of Trumps policies.
Dont ever talk to me again I hate you i hate you I just wanted to be friends with you And you made fun of me Also im sorry, i said that about u jews and im sorry Dont make fun of me meanie 😡
Who was president when Israel flattened Gaza? Who sent them the weapons to do it? Why do you excuse Biden and the Democrats role in the genocide just because Trump is worse?
The Harris campaign purposefully ignored anyone asking about Gaza.
“We also didn’t create a new category for Gaza responses out of fear that category would be leaked. Instead we were told to mark them as ‘no response,’” the organizer said, faulting top Harris campaign leaders for failing to address the issue. “The only ‘clowns’ out there are those who were in senior leadership and decided to abdicate on this issue, who silenced a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, and who told us to ignore it every time a voter asked us about Gaza.”
I am increasingly disgusted by liberals. I am never voting Democrat again, it is past Biden or Harris being bad, it is the entire base that is genocidal except with polite rhetoric.
Who is president while Native Americans and Puerto Ricans are being arrested by ICE and threatened with deportation?
Who is president while America gives up on every single climate goal?
Who is president while Elon Musk’s people have been given total access to U.S. finances without any sort of security clearances?
I could go on, but I won’t, because you are acting like the election was some sort of referendum on Israel. And all I can say to that is that I hope you have the white privilege to not be affected by this at the level of anyone who’s skin is a darker shade of peach and the cisgender, heterosexual privilege as well.
Excuse is a different thing altogether than a vote. One is a state of mind. The other impacts who is president and brings that administrations actions into reality. Anyone who did not vote Democrat is responsible for the net difference in those outcomes. A vote is not a protest.
The US and Israel are cartoon villains at this point.
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Good on the AFP for being willing to put the critical context in the headline instead of just trying to present bland data.
I imagine they’re fortifying against Iran, or God knows who else they’re pissing off.
So the same as Biden but liberals have a selective memory.
Here’s a few articles to remind the intentionally forgetful liberals:
March 2024 U.S. sends more weapons to Israel amid growing calls for cease-fire
June 2024 US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7
Anyways keep going mask off. Good luck getting any of us to vote Democratic ever again. It is clearly isn’t just a few Democratic politicians who are bad, it is the entire party base that’s a basket of deplorables to quote a prominent Democrat.
So let’s say this issue is a push… Now how about EVERY OTHER FUCKING THING HAPPENING?
STOP trying to draw a false equivalency between the two paths we had available to us.
You will not find a more peaceful and just society on the paths presented by the oligarchy.
You will have to remove both machinations of the oligarchy from power.
So the same as Biden but liberals have a selective memory.
Then I guess there should have been other reasons to stop Trump from getting into office.
Good luck getting any of us to vote Democratic ever again.
You still think Republicans will have elections that aren’t the kind they have in Russia.
Amazing how many people still think America still works by the rules.
axis of evil and has been. you vote democrat, you vote republican, you vote for genocide. simple as.
This is down voted for some reason but it’s literally true. No matter who you voted for no matter whether you voted or not you voted for genocide in this election. Pure facts.
But you do realize that trump is much much much much worse, right? It’s not just about the genocide, you know.
Worse how? In terms of for Palestine. They were always screwed no matter what. It seems to me that Trump is pretty much identical to Biden in terms of supporting Palestine, except he’s an idiot and says the quiet part out loud while Biden just recited Zionist talking points.
These people have enough privilege that they know they won’t be put in the camps first. And they probably think they never will. So it’s no risk to them.
i don’t think he’s much much much much worse, that’s too many muchs- maaaybe much much worse- and that’s neither here or there… genocide IS a reasonable red line and you can’t gaslight me off my solid footing in that regard.
Ok but you’ve opted for the much much worse ethnic clensing.
Even if it actually happens, much worse than what?
Than what was happening under the dems.
It’s already happening. US contractors on the ground, and Trump OKd ramping up in the West Bank which the dems were also blocking
which the dems were also blocking
Which the dems were what? Israel ramped up operations in the West Bank during the war if you remember that. Also at least 200 thousand Gazans have died my man at least wait until something (and no, Trump saying horrible things doesn’t qualify) happens before you say “worse than what was happening under the dems”.
Blocking. They didn’t ramp them up til the level they’re at now until Trump got in for a reason. Adelson didn’t pay 150m for nothing you twat
To some people the genocide overshadows anything else because… Y’know, it is/was a genocide. Telling those people that “it’s not just about the genocide” is, frankly, barking up the wrong tree.
And yet they did nothing to stop the genocides of brown and queer people in America happening now.
I guess only one genocide matters. But then that’s been clear to the Sudanese for years now.
But then that’s been clear to the Sudanese for years now.
I mean does America have anything to do with that? Your problem is with the Emirates for supporting that genocide.
Yes. Yes it does. The fact that you didn’t even bother to find out just reinforces what I said. Only one genocide matters to certain people.
Okay this was an interesting and informative read but it does nothing to contradict my point. The article is arguing that America didn’t do enough to stop the genocide in Sudan, not that it’s in any way directly supporting the RSF.
What are you even talking about now?
This is what I said:
I guess only one genocide matters. But then that’s been clear to the Sudanese for years now.
That has nothing to do with supporting anyone. Exactly the opposite. People who need support are getting none. Because their genocide does not matter to the world. Which is the same thing that will happen when the genocide of queer people in the U.S. reaches that level.
Because queer people don’t matter and if they die, it doesn’t matter. Even if they’re Palestinian. Any Palestinian-American who gets put in a camp for being queer? Who cares when Biden supported the only genocide that’s apparently worth caring about?
Personally I’d prefer a single genocide over a genocide, all foreign aid being pulled, dumping vital irrigation reserves, and more.
How about the start of two genocides?
“Yeah we got a genocide but at least we don’t have a genocide!”
Yeah, because all things are equal. At least to simpletons.
At this point, some people have become walking textbook trolley problems, where to make a choice that makes you moral in one dimension you become a monster in all the others and make everyone worse in the process. But your conscience is safe, thank you for that.
it is safe because i didn’t allow myself to reduce supporting genocide to a trolley problem.
Reduce? You people spent months reducing all other issues that affect billions of people well into the future like fighting climate change or keeping civil rights or access to healthcare or labour rights or all 900 pages of project 2025 to the one issue where you have
nonegative leverage either way by voting for president.You’re the one dumbing down political debate to a single issue, I just framed it in a way that captures the pattern of hundreds of sterile debates I’ve seen online: you can choose to soil your conscience by collectively choosing to avert disaster or let disaster happen and get nothing in return (probably even worse) for your one cause.
And the worst part is your vote should not even have been decisive, it should have been easier to get 10% of undecided normies to compensate your reluctant 1%, but they are depoliticized and don’t care if they live in fascism or not anymore.
and that’s my prerogative as a voter. are you here to shame me some more? about the genocide i won’t overlook to vote for kamala harris? the same kamala harris who reversed her position on fracking? who wanted to fund nato even harder? you’re gonna tell me she represented a positive position on climate change?? and bath-tub of collard green kamala harris is not doing a damn thing for civil rights, so where are you coming from with this?
Eh, I’m venting at this point, as I wrote before, it’s not your even your fault, y’all were probably
ventinggrieving too over months of war crimes, it’s the uninformed normies who don’t care and don’t understand that decided this.This person basically just told you they don’t give a shit about anything but one single genocide. Other genocides, like ones in the U.S.? Don’t matter. Other genocides in other parts of the world? Don’t matter. Climate change potentially killing off the entire species? Don’t matter.
Which is why single-issue voters are just abhorrent people.
Think the Democrats would build Gaza a Lago?
Do you know which politician has taken the most money from Israel? I think that he was happy to support their genocide, and his vice president was no different.
Trump is absolutely a nightmare but trying to pretend that Democrats weren’t also a nightmare on this issue is ridiculous. The halls of Congress are full of Israeli flags. There is no voting to help. Palestinians meaningfully possible.
No, they’d just quietly fund the Israeli plan for the same result.
Hey they would at least condemned Israel’s actions
Excuse me while I go cry in the corner about how fucked we are
Based on the smirking Vampire Matt Miller, the US would be “concerned” and would be “looking into that”
It ain’t over, just another chapter in the long struggle for freedom.
Sometimes you have to choose the lesser evil, and you did good in the difference.
and sometimes you have a conscience that doesn’t allow you to rationalize away complicity in genocide
You are rationalizing away your complicity in the two genocides that are happening in the U.S. right now. To the point that you’ve denied that they are happening in the very recent past.
lol cope
