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  • My parents-in-law keep bees as a hobby. They have a few hives scattered around a forest area, take a couple of jars a year. Personally I have absolutely no issue with that. I don’t really care that much about the general publics labelling.

    For me the problem arises with the monstrous factories that are processing these animals and their products, it’s neither sustainable, healthy or morally sound. I think it’s likely that bees gets the same horrible treatment as all other animals in when it comes to mass production.






  • wheez@lemmy.zipto196@lemmy.blahaj.zone•vegan rule
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    9 days ago

    Maybe it was a bad example, excuse me.

    What I mean is, some things in society are absolutely not accepted, and we wouldn’t congratulate people on just doing less of these things. For me, factory farming of animal products is one of these things. I do realize that some people don’t consider it to be.

    Again, I wouldn’t say I disagree with the original comment, I just have some conflicting thoughts about it I guess. Hope this makes sense.


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    9 days ago

    I’m not saying it’s bad.

    Maybe in my mind, I just think it’s a bit weird to glorify it in a way. If someone would come to me and proudly say “I’m only 20% racist now!”, I don’t think my initial reaction would be “Great, keep going!”. It would probably be more like “Why are you any % racist in the first place?”.


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    9 days ago

    I agree, but I think framing the goal is important.

    I think the better way to go about it is to commit fully from the start. Maybe there’s some hiccups, and then you can reset and try again. I guess it’s very personal however. Some people might benefit from another mindset. Anything that gets people away from abuse, I’m all for.


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    9 days ago

    I think this is a very arbitrary line to draw, and I honestly don’t think it’s backed up by science. Octopuses may outperform pigs and cows at some tasks, but how do you measure their overall intelligence in a way that’s comparable?


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    9 days ago

    My experience was the same, I expected a lot of friction dropping meat, but there was just nothing, which felt almost laughable. I do have friends however that have struggled to drop it, so it varies I guess.

    Dairy and eggs was a bit harder, because it’s included in so many products and dishes I regularly ate. Takes a bit of time and energy, but when the switch is made, I would say its pretty smooth sailing


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    9 days ago

    While I agree with the sentiment, I still struggle a bit with this rhetoric. When it comes to misogyny or rasicsm you wouldn’t tell someone to just try and do less of it. The meat & dairy industry is still a whole lot of abuse and exploitation, and I think everyone is probably on board with having nothing to do with it. The friction is just too high I guess.