So, a Greek guy in Canada made an Italian staple into something that he thought would represent a Hawaiian cuisine (even though it was just the can, many people naively believe it truly is a Hawaiian dish)

Once someone told me they thought that’s how they ate their pizza over there. Lol.

Nevertheless, if I were in Canada at that time, I would have visited his restaurant and ordered one of the originals. It’s not the best pizza topping but it is also not the worst. (I hate anchovies, fish of any kind or mushrooms on my pizza. Mushrooms are good in other dishes.)

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      I have not had Spam, but I have heard it is similar to pork roll (more salty, maybe?), and as someone who grew up on pork roll, that shit is fucking amazing.

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        I haven’t either, to be honest. But I don’t eat meat anymore and haven’t in some time, so I guess I’ll never know what it tastes like.

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    Pizza Hawaii is actually based on the idea of a German TV cook called Clemens Willenrod, who invented the famous Toast Hawaii in 1955, 7 years prior to the first Pizza Hawaii.

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    Pineapple pizza aint bad like people say. It a little weird feeling sweet fruit on my pizza yes,But its pretty good.

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    I first tried pineapple on pizza earlier this year, and discovered I actually like it, it adds a little bit of a different flavour profile to the pizza.

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        I haven’t tried it, but I have had warm/hot pineapple in other situations and I know I don’t like it.

        Similarly, I don’t have to have a banana split to know I won’t like it since I already hate bananas.

        Also, the traditional Hawaiian pizza also has ham on it, which I also don’t like. You don’t necessarily have to try a dish to know you won’t like it.

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          See that’s a valid excuse. Similarly I don’t eat seafood so I know in advance I’m not gonna like anything with oysters in it. It’s different when someone doesn’t have those restrictions.

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            I am not a fan of seafood at all, but I LOVE sushi. So I guess it turns out that I don’t like the taste of cooked seafood.

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        I haven’t tried poutine or broccoli on pizza.

        It would be like putting salsa on Cajun food. There’s a conflict there that’s readily apparent.

        You could just sweeten the sauce and increase the acidity to get a similar result as pineapple.

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          Oh no the best pineapple pizzas are the ones without sauce/with white sauce. The pizza oven cuts the acidity of the pineapple and makes it delicately sweet.

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          I would try poutine on pizza without a second thought. Living in the vicinity of the pizza mecca of the world, you’d be surprised by what some places come up with out of sheer boredom. And it’s usually not that bad. I’ve seen fucking vodka rigatoni pizza. Yes, that is pasta ON pizza.

          I have had broccoli and chicken white pizza, and it’s fucking great.

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      I ordered pineapple on pizza as a joke at a party. My buddy said to order 10 pizzas for the party and only gave me a list of 7 toppings. The other three he probably assumed would just be plain. Wrong. Pineapple! I had never tried it before that or after. It was a prank that went wrong though because we liked it a bit more than we should have. I ended up eating a whole pizza. he had his own and the other was eaten by some of the other guests. He now likes it and gets it a lot. Never had the actual Hawaiian with ham. I don’t eat ham, but I eat other pork products like bacon and pepperoni.

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        I’m kind of curious about the logic behind eating pepperoni (super processed pork) but not eating ham (unprocessed pork)…

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          I am not picky, I would still eat it but I never order it or purposely get it. It is a taste thing. It has nothing to do with health or any aversion to pork. Ham isn’t as appealing but here is a kicker: I like Canadian Bacon which is closer to straight up Easter ham than pepperoni. Also pepperoni doesn’t even taste like other pork products except salami. I used to frequent capicola. Bacon is the same way, but I have now heard of beef bacon I am hoping to try.

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          Ham is cured, which is considered processed.

          Not OP, but it could be a taste thing:

          In the US it’s frequently wet cured to save money. At the deli there are a lot of varieties of ham that mostly just taste sweet, with no noticeable ham flavor or saltiness. This is what usually ends up on Hawaiian pizza.

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            I didn’t think ham had to be cured necessarily… Like when they cook a pig over a fire, are you not eating ham at some point (I assume it depends on what part of the pig?)? I don’t know.

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    I love Hawaiian pizza, not my absolute favorite but I order it quite often

    Me and my wife remember that when we were kids Hawaiian pizza usually had cherry as well as pineapple but it suddenly disappeared, was that common previously it was that something from our hometown?

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      In Germany, the traditional Toast Hawaii has a cherry on top. It was invented 7 years before the Pizza Hawaii, so it could likely be that the pizzerias back in the day were orienting their recipe more on the original than today.

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      Since pineapple already is in dishes like ham because it degrades meat and adds flavor I can understand the logic but cherry!?!?. That fruit should not go on it.

      Reminds me of Chicken apple walnut salad. I ended up picking out the apple slices.

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    Pineapple gets an outsized amount of attention as a pizza topping for how mid it is. I don’t hate or love it, I’m simply okay with it.

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      Hawaiian pizza is mid but Jalapeño and Pineapple pizza is S-tier. Spicy and sweet.

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      I agree with this sentiment. I feel weird for not having strong feelings about it either way.

      I love me some pineapple, and I am not sure if I would say that the combo is greater than the sum of its parts.

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      While people hate on it for flavor something, idk, I warn people that pineapple retains heat and to make sure that it cools before eating. Pineapple stays burn the roof of your mouth hot longer than the cheese and sauce!

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    I knew about the origin, but always thought it was called Hawaiian because of the combination of pineapple and ham, both of which are known as staples of modern Hawaiian food. TIL!

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    And on that day, pizza crimes were born.

    Meanwhile, OP, please pass me those mushrooms. Nom nom!

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      I had pineapple on pizza once. It wasn’t as bad as I thought but not on my top ten. I like mushrooms with steak, cheese steak and other dishes and casseroles. I had an anchovy and not a fan. Tried to eat a sardine, was horrible. Fish on pizza is a crime if fruit is.

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          Yeah but it is used as a vegetable. So is cucumber (but I haven’t seen cucumber on pizza, but I have seen pickles on a cheese burger pizza). People don’t like sweet/sour fruits on pizza. While tomatoes are often sweet, not as sweet as most fruits. All plants that are edible and come from flower ovaries are fruits: bell peppers, squash, eggplant.

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            Just a friendly reminder, pollen is plant cum. Enjoy that thought the next time you have a sneezing fit.

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              Yea and we eat plant reproductive organs. But it doesn’t surprise me because we eat “babies” ie chicken eggs. Young animals ie veal. Also, bees vomit the pollen they process in their stomachs onto the honeycomb. Nature is indeed wild, but we are notoriously wilder.

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              I should have added that lol. Strawberry was one that surprised me a while ago. Never knew that they are in the rose family and flowers kind of.

              And I was mad at animal crossing for putting bananas on palm trees . They are herbs and berries.

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        I would never order it, but I’ll eat a “Hawaiin” if someone puts it in front of me (well, would have before my gluten issues). Living in Japan taught me that a lot of things work amazingly well on pizza. Roasted corn is one of my favorites. Bulgogi and kimchi is another one that works really nicely.

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    I’ll never just order anchovies, but I don’t hate them. If someone mentions that they like anchovies but no one is willing to share a pie with them, I’ll gladly split a pie with them.

    Conversely to your statement, I would totally eat an anchovi, mushroom, pineapple and jerk mahi mahi pizza :)

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      Mushrooms always change the texture of the cheese when you take them off. I don’t want to notice a mushroom when I eat it. I eat mushrooms in other dishes like a casserole or with steak or beef stew etc. anchovies might be the same way. I tried them plain. But I am rarely picky. If someone serves it, I will eat it.

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        For what it’s worth I believe that mushroom should be sliced thin and thoroughly sauteed before they’re put on the pie. They should have a density somewhere around sausage and really shouldn’t change the texture of the cheese much if they’re done right.

        I know a lot of places that just throw raw sliced mushrooms on a pizza and I think that’s horrible.

        And trovise on the other hand should just be salty with a slight umami flavor. I think the only true consistency problem I see with them is if you get a whole anchovy in your mouth right along your molars, when you bite into it they will be a bit chewy which is not great. Realistically nothing on a pizza should be chewy ;)

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    There’s also a “Canadian” pizza which is usually Pepperoni, Bacon and Mushrooms, sometimes made with a Cheddar Cheese/Mozza blend depending on the place

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      Well I have definitely had pepperoni and bacon on my pizza. Those ingredients would work well on a cheesesteak, I would eat mushrooms on a sandwich. There was a place near me with “stereotypical ethnic” pizzas and sandwiches that had Canadian pizza on it if I remember correctly. They had Chinese, Greek, Mexican etc. they also had celebrity/historian sandwiches that were decent.

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      So many things originate from immigrants who moved to the US and then made it by inventing something. I didn’t know that basketball was made by a Canadian in Massachusetts.

      I hope to vacation up in Canada one day. I love mountainous areas and a lot of good bands and influencers I follow live there or are from there.