The UN general assembly has voted overwhelmingly to back the Palestinian bid for full UN membership, in a move that signalled Israel’s growing isolation on the world stage amid global alarm over the war in Gaza and the extent of the humanitarian crisis in the strip. The move drew an immediate rebuke from Israel. Its envoy to the UN, Gilad Erdan, delivered a fiery denunciation of the resolution and its backers before the vote, and fed pages of the UN charter into a shredder. The Palestinian envoy, Riyad Mansour, highlighted that the vote was being held at a time when Rafah, Gaza’s southernmost city that is the last haven for many people, faced attack from Israeli forces

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      I remember an Israeli pundit once complained that the UN creating Israel was “the mortgage that never ends” because the Israeli government absolutely loves to demonize the UN but still depends on it.

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        I think of Karen videos when I see Israel. She is so sensitive and irrational, but yet the US keeps giving her what she wants and only turning her into a bigger Karen. When she doesn’t get her way she calls you antisemitic and says you hate Jews.

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      Stated goals of the UN charter according Wikipedia:

      to maintain international peace and security, uphold international law, achieve “higher standards of living” for their citizens, address “economic, social, health, and related problems”, and promote "universal respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion.

      Did they even read the charter before having their little temper tantrum?

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      That’s the UN charter, not the UN partition plan for mandatory Palestine. Israel was established through military aggression, which is what Russia is currently trying to do in Ukraine.

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      It’s probably less about telling off the UN and more about sound bites / video clips that will play well with his bosses and their political base back home.

      Historically, right wing isolationist ideologues of all nationalities seem to cheer and double down when faced with international criticism. They know it’s them and their beliefs against the world and they have a fantasy that they can win, right up until an overwhelming number of them die for it.

      Israel as a nation is not in a mood for self reflection and definitely doesn’t want to understand the hole their digging themselves into.

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      It’s the UN assembly. I’m more surprised not a single shoe was taken off to be thrown or to beat on a desk.

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    This CNN article has a lot more information and context including who voted against the measure (nine countries including the US and Israel), the practical effects of the measure (new rights for Palestine to sponsor and support resolutions but still no vote), and what can be expected in the near future (a vote in the UN security council on whether to actually admit Palestine which might pass but which the US will veto).

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        I’m Czech. No matter the party, our government always had Israel bootlickers. T. G. Masaryk, founder of Czechoslovakia, was anti-antisemitic. We share a prevailing fake feeling of tininess and vulnerability (in 1938, the Allies signed the Munich treaty, sacrificing us to Nazi Germany, and in 1968 our “partner” USSR invaded us for straying from hard Communism) even though we have strong allies and a decent standing in our respective regions. Our support mainly consists of shilling for Israel in international politics and preserving our Jewish sites while they provide tech investment and recently COVID vaccines. I think the government did send some aid but the average Czech does not care about Israel, as opposed to Ukraine, which was heavily donated to (and a huge number of its its refugees were accepted) thanks to our bad experience with Russia and a significant, well-behaved Ukrainian minority.

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            I would say this has less to do with Israel bootlicking and more with US bootlicking (sure, not much difference but it’s always worth to remind that all this is because USA in the first place), Czech international politics look like made in Washington on all issues, which is visible especially lately when Visehrad group split on the Ukraine issue.

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                Yup, we are trying really hard to stop being associated with the Soviet Union. Our Senate meets to celebrate Israel‘s birthday and promises to fulfill NATO obligations while Israel representatives order a radar system from a Czech company and promise to shout “Czechia is in Central Europe!” at anyone suggesting we’re in the East.

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                  That’s kinda visible tbh. The time I was in Prague for two months in 2020 made me feel like “alright, alright, I know already about the bloody Soviets and how cool is Václav Havel, could you please stop”

                  From that perspective, it makes sense how it could turn to serve NATO.

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      I wish it also listed the abstaining countries. I hope I don’t see my country on that list but expect to. Anyone know what the list is?

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    The video is amazing. He was actually trying to show to the assembly “what they were doing” to the UN charter.

    Instead he created a golden moment of cringe comedy where he is the one putting the charter into a tiny shredder, and declaring “you make me sick” like a petulent child with the diminutive machine’s whirring in the background.

    Especially compared to the Palestinian speech he made himself look like a total clown.

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        Liberals also don’t seem to realize Hamas’s strategies of taking hostages, using tunnels and guerilla warfare etc are identical to the Viet Cong’s, and so are their goals of driving out the occupation to reunite their country.

        Also, “israel” has had — and continues to have — thousands of Palestinians hostage in its prisons for the entire 75 years that this colony has existed.

        The native people have every right to use whatever means necessary to resist an occupation. Decolonization is violent; if you don’t like it, don’t colonize in the first place.

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          While I support Palestine, I do not think the solution is to violently overthrow Israel and return Palestine to its historical borders.

          In those 75 years, many Israeli people were born on this land, and it really is their home. Palestine returning those lands threatens their safety and rights, especially after all that Israel the state had done to the people of Palestine. It would be foolish to assume Hamas will be civil and respectful to the people of Israel in return.

          Most citizens of Israel have not brought it upon themselves.

          Palestine, though, should retain every bit of its territory before the latest war, and Israel should pay huge reparations to Gaza and open free passage for any goods, services and people to and from Gaza.

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            Palestinians only have one method of resistance left, and that’s violence. Telling them to not use it because Israelis might get hurt is, and I’m sorry to say this, frankly ridiculous. If Israelis don’t want to get hurt maybe they should give Palestinians the state they’ve been asking for for forty years. I understand your concern, but the onus to prevent this outcome is squarely on Israel; as colonized people Palestinians have the right to use all means necessary to obtain their freedom.

            That said, you’re most likely worrying over nothing. Hamas doesn’t have the capability to overthrow Israel; their operations mostly serve to lose Israel face on the international stage. The only scenario in which Israel falls is if America completely leaves it out to the wolves and the middle east tears it apart, which is extremely unlikely.

            Most citizens of Israel have not brought it upon themselves.

            Okay I understand the reflex to explain how governments don’t represent their people, but look at this and you might wanna reconsider. Netanyahu didn’t come out of nowhere; he came in when the only man in Israeli history who had the potential to actually end the conflict was assassinated (after Netanyahu and his ilk went in parades calling for his assassination) and since then it’s all been genocidal maniacs (save for one guy in 2008 who still didn’t have the guts to actually do something worthwhile), mostly Netanyahu himself. Now I don’t believe in “push the Zionists into the sea” rhetoric, and the only time it was realistic was in 49’ anyway, but the conduct of the Israeli public these past few months in particular and in the past 30 years in general has been nothing short of fucking disgusting. If Israel does fall and they’re persecuted by the new regime, anyone who wasn’t explicitly pushing for peace (and children and the like of course) is getting nothing but Schafenfreude from me.

            All of this is excluding foreign-born citizens of Israel; anyone who willingly went to that place and isn’t explicitly calling for peace is a piece of shit.

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            In those 75 years, many Israeli people were born on this land, and it really is their home.

            Wait so this concept is only valid for Israelis?