Of course it’s only a struggle because you’re all libs. If you weren’t libs you’d recognise the rightful claim of SERBIA
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The Romans are still around (Sealand)
no investigation, no right to speak!
leave this discussion to us experts please.
NO IT IS SERBIA
the funniest part about the “TRUE ROMAN SVCCESSOR” state thing is that the country that probably has the best “legal” claim to the title also 100% does not claim it, don’t mention it, don’t even pretend it was ever a factor.
It’s Spain.
Andreas Palaiologos bequeathed the titled to Felipe and Isabella of Castille. Although that remains contingent on Charles VIII of France’s purchase of the title being invalid (I would argue so, seeing as he failed to live up to the stipulation of the sale)I don’t know enough about succession of a dead empire, but I feel like if it were anyone it would be the turks.
Thats not a theory I have ever heard, I was under the impression the line of sultans dates to the göktürks?
They took Istanbul (Not Constantinople
) and Mehmed the Conquerer had the Patriarch of Constantinople declare him Kayser-i Rum (Caesar of Rome)I didn’t know that, that’s a pretty good claim then
The Turks invited the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople over to make it official, so if you’re one of those “The pope appoints the Emperor” guys then sure.
I’m not one of any guys I don’t really hold any opinions on who “the real roman empire is” because it seem kinda silly
That is the correct choice. Which is why it’s so funny that even the people who could claim it don’t.
svcc
I’ve seen unironic arguments that the Roman Empire, HRE, British Empire, etc should all be basically considered dynasties of the same empire the way the various states that ruled over China all get treated as dynasties of one empire, though I believe at least some of that particular point is to highlight how eurocentric historiography is all too willing to endlessly subdivide and see distinctions in European states while elsewhere it just sees one mass of people that’s just ruled by one family or another. Though I believe the modern historiographic standard is to apply the same level of nuance and detail that historical European states got to other places.
how would it be serbia? the “real” succession goes rome -> constantinople -> moscow. then due to the bolsheviks, the only part of the former russian empire to escape the red peril and remain a viable successor is fascist finland.
Tone clarifyer: Its a joke. I’m referencing an old meme/injoke that came about after people noticed some people from Serbia would claim everything and everyone as being Serbian - Elvis was serbian and “Tupac alive in Serbia” are probably the most famous of these.
It’s sort of related to “greater Albania” memes that also rely on a weird niche group making strange ahistorical claims. See also: “come to Brazil”yeah, i’m channeling similar memes :)
also, this thing about claiming everyone is not unique to serbia, it’s extremely widespread from slovakia on down the balkans.
i once stumbled into the site of an earlier wikipedia edit war on franz liszt’s ethnicity. hooooooo boy. everyone from the former austrohungrian monarchy was there, trying to claim him.
I reckoned, but it’s never a bad idea to clarify tone.
Yeah it seems like it’s a Balkan thing lol. I’ve mainly encountered Serbians doing it, or maybe that’s just what has stuck because of my serbian uncle sort of doing the same.
Elvis was serbian
That one is true though. He invited Tupac to hang out with him in his home country and he loved it so much he stayed there forever.
Wrong! It is Serbia!
serbia is the one with the pyramids dear. and also the origin of all european culture in prehistory.
but it’s no rome.
SERBIA ALSO HAD THE PYRAMIDS BECAUSE ROME HAD EGYPT AND EGYPT HAD THE PYRAMIDS AND ROMAN EMPIRE IS SERBIAN LOOK UP
i meant these pyramids, not the desert knockoffs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramid_claims
Lmao spicy to link to a link to an article talking about Bosnia.
oh come on, bosnia is very certainly serbia in these fantasies, there’s no question about that :D
Haha of course! But that’s part of the spice
